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Posted 02 May 2000 - 11:36 PM

What a great year i have spent reading the last weeks posts, Its great to see so many posting.
Thanks so much Mel for alerting me to 'Stand inside your love'. I went out and bought Machina and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT (Thanks), I see you have finally forgiven Jim for his slagging antics, I am not so blessed with the power to forgive (I don't like aggresive homophobic coments being posted in my mail box, (i.e. the the hand-specialist comments)sorry but don't come to the south Jim because i can almost garuntee you a permanent disability if you do)....

Now i can join in with the wednesday chat from....wait for it.......OCTOBER. O.K. Its a long time to wait but since no one bothers on Sundays it gives me something to look forward to.

And now onto our third favourite forum discussion topic (after 1: Sophie and 2: DC's bedroom antics). Yep Columbia.
Get this, in a recent interview it seemed to me that Columbia were 100% behind releasing loose your way going out on single. Why? because Sophie said they were gonna spend thousands of dollars on a big budget video for it to be shot on the set of Dawsons Creek, what better a way to launch her back into the mainstream, but Sophie just laughed at them and used the Gigi video (which is beautiful). But I wonder what would have happened if she had said yes (with Dawsons Creek being so popular at the momment an all).

That poem was by a guy called SWINBURNE mel, and i will post some more on the site later.


'I let the beast in too soon
I don't know how to live without my hand on his throat i fight him always yet still'.

'You were sitting, your fingers like fuses, your eyes were cinamon'.
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Posted 03 May 2000 - 01:24 AM

>ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT (Thanks), I
>see you have finally forgiven
>Jim for his slagging antics,
>I am not so blessed
>with the power to forgive

I suppose I should put the record straight here.



>(I don't like aggresive homophobic
>coments being posted in my
>mail box, (i.e. the the
>hand-specialist comments)

The hand specialist comments are not homophobic. They were originally directed towards your 'friend' Glyn who I believe was the person sending me emails threatening with guns and gangsters and what was gonna be done to me. I replied to him, telling him to fuck off.

The emails continued and then you finally email me saying I wasn't meant to be part of these set of emails, and told me to piss off, even though it was your fault I was involved and someone that you know was making the threats. Thanks 'mate'.

I replied with the hand specialist comments to you also as it was fitting. Hand specialist = w*****r, or 'jerk' as the Americans would say. Nothing homophobic about that.

As for aggressive comments what was your friend doing? What are you doing at the end of your post today?
I think you'll find that I have never (as far as I recall) threatened anyone in private emails or in posts, not even Mel. I have insulted alot but never threatened. You have. Your friend has. People on this forum have.


>sorry but don't come
>to the south Jim because
>i can almost garuntee you
>a permanent disability if you
>do)....

'Sorry' but all I can do is laugh at that.
You know where I am. Northumbria Uni. Newcastle.
If you feel the need to make threats then do so but come and carry them out also.

I look forward to seeing you.

One last thing. It's funny how you like to stir the pot just as Mel and I end the 'war', a result of Mel's generosity I might add. Thankyou Mel.

You've had quite a time to post these comments but you just got round to it now. That says a lot but then you're not difficult to figure out.
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Posted 03 May 2000 - 02:36 AM

The story so far.
1. I send a message to a group of friends, Jim is inccluded in the address book by accident and so receives the message also. The Message starts ...'Dear David....' (Jim I beleive is called Jim').
Sorry Jim you weren't supposed to be pasted into that address book.

2. Some one respondes to me via [reply to all recipients] and Jim gets a copy of the message.

3. I get several copies of several of Jims evil computer work thru the email. Some of it containing unfirgivable verbal slander.

For the next few weeks.

And here is my reply to Jims Post.

-------------------------------------------------
Threats.

O.K.
so some corrections are needed here. Your (how shall we put this) 'Mutual group Jerking activity' comments, I think you will find, were completely over the top and uncalled for. If you were ever the slightest bit of a man you would not have responded to my friends, but to me and told me to remove you from that particular address book, but oh no, not you Jim you have to respond in the most insolent and slanderous way possible, the way you know best, the way in which your evil mind works.

As you could read from the message, it was nothing to do with you, what did you think when you got it? "Oh look someone I know has sent me something unrelated to me, obviously by accident, great I have a first class excuse to piss them off"

yes indeed your comments were very homophobic Jim (and if that wasn't the intention of the mail, That is what was given). The message was also Slanderous. For your information you were only sent one mail message in the said address book and one reply (TO ME), and yet I received several psychopathic hateful messages back, which consisted of more deluded psychotic 'hahahaha.......'s' than Norman Bates uses in the Pscycho dialogue!!!! What does that say about you.
Your only pleasures in life seems to be
(a) driving nice people away from this site
(B) stopping nice people from posting stuff, by littering it with your pathetic bitching comments
© Winding people up and then coming back with your tail between their legs asking for forgiveness.

Hopefuly all for effect or are you reall that bored/twisted/pathetic.

Well I had just about enough when i went through (whilst deleting old messages in my mail box) your verbal dribbles, the last of which were sent only a week ago. How many times did I have to respond to get you to shut up (many times you will find).

If you remember Jim, you and I started off Pals, having a commen (and unspoken) goal, getting Sophie to come and play over here, and getting more interest from Europe. Now you rise up and fire accusations and piss me off, big time. The truth is, I can speak to Ryan, Mel, Darkest Childe and the others without any history of pissing them off.
Can the same be said about you?
I think not....
You are at best regarded a 'loose cannon'.

As regard my threats, they were meant to be taken exactly as they were typed (I don't know what you look like, how old you are, where you live etc, so once again you go over the top, trying to make other readers feel sorry for you, If there are others reading this, a message to them, 'this is a really pathetic slagging match and i apologise for taking up space on the board for, but i refuse to be violated, 'I WON'T BE SILENT HERE').

Turning the 'diability' message around on me would have been a good ploy to make me feel guilty and at your low level, however your 'come and have a go if you think your hard enough' comment really bought you down again.
What really eats me about you Jim, is that you have bought this on yourself entirely, yet seek to blame me. What exactly have I done??????
WHAT EXACTLY HAVE I DONE????? NOTHING.
I refuse to waste my time on this anymore. Because I could forgive you today but tommorow you will be back to re-offend.
I pity you, but I pity those who come accross you more.

Now let that be an end to it.
I don't intend to leave this site and neither do you.
'You've broken down the door and there is no place to hide'.
As Sophie said, 'I don't mind a temper'.
But if we are gonna stay here in harmony we are gonna have to tolerate each other.

Nick.
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Posted 03 May 2000 - 11:32 PM

OK. The group mail came into my inbox 3 times in different forms. That's 3 Nick. I also received two more from individuals that were not part of your group 'discussions'. That makes 5. But then you know everything that comes into my inbox don't you so I must be wrong on that one.

So "sorry Jim you weren't meant to be in that one, now piss off", is the way you apologise is it? And I'm supposed to be the nut around here. OK.
There also wasn't a Dear David start to the emails so you lost me on that one.

>3. I get several copies
>of several of Jims evil
>computer work thru the email.
> Some of it containing
>unfirgivable verbal slander.

Yes you did. Several. BecauseI received several emails. Do you know what several means?

On the subject of emails I seem to remember you sending me emails originally, strange ones but I humoured you for your 3 emails in an afternoon approach. You complained to me when I didn't reply to your emails. Again, who is the stalking nut around here. I admit I'm not all there, I told you from the start, but you pestered me with emails and I replied to some of them. This is after I have insulted you on the message forum and still you come back for more. Strange Thing, you are mate.


> If you were ever
>the slightest bit of a
>man you would not have
>responded to my friends, but
>to me and told me
>to remove you from that
>particular address book, but oh
>no, not you Jim you
>have to respond in the
>most insolent and slanderous way
>possible, the way you know
>best, the way in which
>your evil mind works.


What is this 'man' Nick? Is this 'man' something stronger than a woman? If you want to twist words then I can take this line as very sexist as you take certain things as homophobic.

So you are a man because you complain, about private emails initiated by you, on the public forum because you know public opinion is against me. So why did you not ask the same question in your private emails if you are 'a man' rather than send me abusive emails, which I responded to with the sillyness, not evil, that you expect of me in the last two emails that I replied to.

A point there. I replied. You have badgered me from the start with private emails, did I ever try to be friendly with you, no, but still you (and Ali G) email me and complain when I piss you off. Maybe you crave attention.

You have waved your arms around alot to get some attention, changed your approach to posting to get replies and slagged Mel before you even knew who she was then shot right up her arse to feed her ego and in return get nice things from Mel. You are a laugh.


>yes indeed your comments were very
>homophobic Jim (and if that
>wasn't the intention of the
>mail, That is what was
>given).

There was no intention on my part to appear homophobic, I have a few gay friends and so would not be able to look them in the eye if I had deliberately made comments that would offend them. That's not to say I don't take the piss out of them but I don't put people down for their sexual orientation or their race, class or colour for that matter.
I do like putting down Americans though I must admit, yeah shoot me posters, Sophie's only fault is that she's American. Now hang, draw and quarter me Mel, Neon et al. MOO-HA-HAAA. Psycho laugh for the benefit of a Cockney Sparra'.

Oh what am I like. I was gonna reduce the tension here but I lapsed back into my cloak and dagger mode. No point in going on.

>Hopefuly all for effect or are
>you reall that bored/twisted/pathetic.

All three.


>Well I had just about enough
>when i went through (whilst
>deleting old messages in my
>mail box) your verbal dribbles,
>the last of which were
>sent only a week ago.
> How many times did
>I have to respond to
>get you to shut up
>(many times you will find).

As I said, you kept emailing me, I usually only ever replied to you. And the number of Nicholas France emails I have had in my inbox has been ridiculous.

>If you remember Jim, you and
>I started off Pals, having

No we didn't. I took the piss out of you on the forum and in your first busy afternoon of private emails. We were never friends. I don't think we ever will be. That saddens me. As much as I am saddened by my lack of friendship with Mel and Neon-Blue and Adma.

>I think not....
>You are at best regarded a
>'loose cannon'.

That's what they said about Princess Diana about her involvement with landmines. I am in good company then as she was a very decent human.

>low level, however your 'come
>and have a go if
>you think your hard enough'
>comment really bought you down
>again.
>What really eats me about you
>Jim, is that you have
>bought this on yourself entirely,
>yet seek to blame me.
> What exactly have I
>done??????
>WHAT EXACTLY HAVE I DONE????? NOTHING.

I know. I KNOW. It's crazy isn't it. If you threaten me I will laugh at you. How many times have I been threatened like that Nick? 99% of threats are empty so I take the piss out of them.
People who make threats rarely take action.
People who take action rarely make threats.

When did I ever say I was on 'a higher plane' than anyone. I am an animal. I am honest about it. I am a misanthropist so why should I give a monkeys about what people think?


>I refuse to waste my time
>on this anymore. Because
>I could forgive you today
>but tommorow you will be
>back to re-offend.

So why did it take you so long to figure that out? Mel has only just shown enough intelligence of how to handle me. It took her long enough.

>I pity you, but I pity
>those who come accross you
>more.

Awwwwwwww

>Now let that be an end
>to it.
>I don't intend to leave this
>site and neither do you.

Yes Dad.

Now I ask you something sincerely Nick. Something that Sophie suggested."Put your mind 10 metres ahead of where you are and see what's there",don't just react when you are confronted with something when it is right in your face, when it may be too late.

Sophie said that so people would try and make a difference to things that are not good. Fine. I see it as just putting a bit of thought into what is going on and deal with it effectively. As I said, Mel has just learned to do that but I detect that it's not gonna be a regular schema for her.

Never mind she's only little and her brain has some growing to do.
As for down in the gutter private emails, you should see what DC says, she can mix it with the best of us for a bit of sauce. Wouldn't touch her with yours mate. MOO-HA-HAA.

Jim.
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Posted 03 May 2000 - 02:37 AM

The story so far.
1. I send a message to a group of friends, Jim is inccluded in the address book by accident and so receives the message also. The Message starts ...'Dear David....' (Jim I beleive is called Jim').
Sorry Jim you weren't supposed to be pasted into that address book.

2. Some one respondes to me via [reply to all recipients] and Jim gets a copy of the message.

3. I get several copies of several of Jims evil computer work thru the email. Some of it containing unfirgivable verbal slander.

For the next few weeks.

And here is my reply to Jims Post.

-------------------------------------------------
Threats.

O.K.
so some corrections are needed here. Your (how shall we put this) 'Mutual group Jerking activity' comments, I think you will find, were completely over the top and uncalled for. If you were ever the slightest bit of a man you would not have responded to my friends, but to me and told me to remove you from that particular address book, but oh no, not you Jim you have to respond in the most insolent and slanderous way possible, the way you know best, the way in which your evil mind works.

As you could read from the message, it was nothing to do with you, what did you think when you got it? "Oh look someone I know has sent me something unrelated to me, obviously by accident, great I have a first class excuse to piss them off"

yes indeed your comments were very homophobic Jim (and if that wasn't the intention of the mail, That is what was given). The message was also Slanderous. For your information you were only sent one mail message in the said address book and one reply (TO ME), and yet I received several psychopathic hateful messages back, which consisted of more deluded psychotic 'hahahaha.......'s' than Norman Bates uses in the Pscycho dialogue!!!! What does that say about you.
Your only pleasures in life seems to be
(a) driving nice people away from this site
(B) stopping nice people from posting stuff, by littering it with your pathetic bitching comments
© Winding people up and then coming back with your tail between their legs asking for forgiveness.

Hopefuly all for effect or are you reall that bored/twisted/pathetic.

Well I had just about enough when i went through (whilst deleting old messages in my mail box) your verbal dribbles, the last of which were sent only a week ago. How many times did I have to respond to get you to shut up (many times you will find).

If you remember Jim, you and I started off Pals, having a commen (and unspoken) goal, getting Sophie to come and play over here, and getting more interest from Europe. Now you rise up and fire accusations and piss me off, big time. The truth is, I can speak to Ryan, Mel, Darkest Childe and the others without any history of pissing them off.
Can the same be said about you?
I think not....
You are at best regarded a 'loose cannon'.

As regard my threats, they were meant to be taken exactly as they were typed (I don't know what you look like, how old you are, where you live etc, so once again you go over the top, trying to make other readers feel sorry for you, If there are others reading this, a message to them, 'this is a really pathetic slagging match and i apologise for taking up space on the board for, but i refuse to be violated, 'I WON'T BE SILENT HERE').

Turning the 'diability' message around on me would have been a good ploy to make me feel guilty and at your low level, however your 'come and have a go if you think your hard enough' comment really bought you down again.
What really eats me about you Jim, is that you have bought this on yourself entirely, yet seek to blame me. What exactly have I done??????
WHAT EXACTLY HAVE I DONE????? NOTHING.
I refuse to waste my time on this anymore. Because I could forgive you today but tommorow you will be back to re-offend.
I pity you, but I pity those who come accross you more.

Now let that be an end to it.
I don't intend to leave this site and neither do you.
'You've broken down the door and there is no place to hide'.
As Sophie said, 'I don't mind a temper'.
But if we are gonna stay here in harmony we are gonna have to tolerate each other.

Nick.
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Posted 03 May 2000 - 02:43 AM

>The hand specialist comments are not
>homophobic. They were originally directed
>towards your 'friend' Glyn who
>I believe was the person
>sending me emails threatening with
>guns and gangsters and what
>was gonna be done to
>me.


They were being directed to me. Part of a long running joke which you wouldn't understand. Don't come that bollocks with me Jim, It is pretty damn obvious when you have been sent a message that starts.

Dear Nick.

You just can't resist.
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Posted 03 May 2000 - 10:26 AM

Nick,

>Thanks so much Mel for alerting
>me to 'Stand inside your
>love'. I went out
>and bought Machina and I
>ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT (Thanks),

:D :D Isn't it beautiful? Aren't the lyrics brilliant? I've yet to see the video, but I think I'll bum around today and watch.
As for Sophie... unfortunately I haven't seen any video from Timbre anywhere. eeesh.
I'd love to see a video for TOYHNS.

I
>see you have finally forgiven
>Jim for his slagging antics,

Not so much forgiven, as decided he's just
someone out there who is not worth arguing with.
Ignore him, Nick, take a load off.

If you want to talk to me about this further, my e-mail is zerostarla@hotmail.com. We've got to clean this message board up, ya know. :).

(btw... poem is cool!)

love,

Melissa
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Posted 04 May 2000 - 01:10 AM

Thanks Mel, I obviously misunderstood Jim, I thought his amiable posts and emails (despite being few and far between) where honest, I didn't think he was just 'humoring me'.
Still its kinda comforting to know that there are some psychos out there (rather than round here).

Check your inbox
(No Jim we aren't gonna start doing private bitching about you, I wanna ask her some questions about The Crow Soundtrack).

Love
Nick.
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